Christian music group Tree63, John Ellis (lead vocals
and guitars), Thinus (Tain) Odendaal (drums) and
Daniel Ornellas (bass) used to be known as Tree.
Sixty-three was the title of their first record that came
out in 1999 in the UK. If you looked at the side of their
CD spine, it said Tree 63 on it, and it looked like one
name, so they were encouraged to go with Tree63 as a
band name.
A tree is a wonderful image of God’s provision: a
source of shade, protection, shelter and abundant life.
And the 63 comes from Psalm 63, “O God, you are my
God, earnestly I seek you; my soul thirsts for you, my
body longs for you, in a dry and weary land where there
is no water” (Psalm 63:1).
These three guys, all originating from South Africa,
have hearts to encourage true and genuine worship of
the God they love. They know He’s the ultimate source
of satisfaction. Read on as John shares about his heart
for his home in South Africa, his dealings with divorce
and Tree63’s ministry to the body of believers.
Brio: What hopes do you have for South
Africans?
On one level I’m very hopeful. This year we celebrated
our 10th year of democracy. We’ve seen the fabric of
society shift, and it’s become much healthier. On
another other level, society is being ripped apart by
AIDS. Generally, the black African communities have a
big problem with AIDS but don’t want to admit it’s an
issue. They have superstitious feelings about what
AIDS is.
The battle is in getting people to acknowledge AIDS
exists and that it’s a problem. You can look at South
Africa and think What a mess! and How’s it
ever going to change? But we believe God has a
plan for South Africa, and He’s working it out. We’ve
seen the benefits of it already.
How can teens help to
promote change in South Africa?
A lot of kids come over on missions trips. They want to
experience Africa and try to help. Every pair of hands is
going to help somewhere. It’s great.
I’m a firm believer in prayer as a force of change, too.
You can throw money at a cause, but to spend time on
your knees praying is something else. Communing with
God about things allows us to get to His heart. We can
see in the spiritual realm what needs to be done. Teens
can have active prayer programs for Africa, and even
more specifically for AIDS, because that’s the big issue.
What led to your decision to
leave your home country and give the U.S. Christian
music industry a try?
It was a genuine call from God. Tree63 is focused on
worshiping God and bringing this music to a room full of
people.
If that means recording albums and putting singles out
on the radio, OK. But first and foremost I’m here
because God has a call on my life to worship Him with
my talent, which is music, and to expose that music to
the world.
Is there a particular group of
people you’re called
to minister to?
It’s definitely the church as a whole. As much as
non-Christians need to be reached, what I do can
benefit the church. More and more, the church at large
is my passion. Not just kids, not just adults — we find
people from all walks of life who appreciate Tree’s
music.
Coming from a divorced
family, what advice would you give Brio readers
who are in a family dealing with divorce?
It wouldn’t take anyone with half a brain to say divorce
is difficult. It isn’t something you get over and pretend
everything is fine after a few weeks. I spent years trying
to get on with life. I didn’t
acknowledge how much I was hurting. Divorce was
the end of my childhood.
I didn’t know anything about God, and Jesus wasn’t
part of my life, so I didn’t know I could turn to Him. I
spent years trying to deal with it on my own. There’s no
way to deal with the emotional stress of a divorce on
your own. You need to turn to God and allow Him to
minister to you and to minister some truth to you,
despite the fact that it’s really hurtful. Even though I
became a Christian a long time after the divorce, God
was still able to heal those old wounds.
Tell us about your song “But
Now My Eyes Are Open.”
When I was younger, I looked for truth in things besides
Jesus. We’re always driving to find truth. As a teen,
things can seem like absolute gospel truth when they
really aren’t. Teens don’t always realize that a song
lyric is someone’s opinion or someone’s poetry. For
teens, everything has intense meaning.
I listened to secular music in the ‘80s. Things were dark
then, but they seem even darker now. If you’re going to
look for truth from musicians, you’re not going to find it.
You’re going to find opinions that can appear like truth.
If you believe them, you’re going to get yourself in
trouble.
When I became a Christian, I realized these people
making the music I loved were just human beings.
Therefore, they’re sinful and not able to get things right
and not able to look at truth properly.
Young people today need to learn not to put their trust
and faith in opinions, ideas and thoughts. They may be
good illustrations of the world around us, but they’re not
expressions of the truth of Jesus Christ. Therefore,
musicians can possibly be admired up to a point, but
they definitely cannot be heroes.
The one true hero is Jesus Christ. There’s no president,
no actor, no musician, no one in history who comes
close to the heroic act of Jesus. It takes a while to work
that out, because as a young person you’re looking
around you for immediate role models. You’ll only find it
in Jesus. You’re not going to find it in the Top 40.
What’s your band’s goal as
you make music and perform
before people?
To get before a room full of people — 30 or 40,000 — to
worship Jesus. We all want to experience the touch of
the Spirit. Rock ‘n’ roll is such a passionate art form,
such a passionate expression of human life. To marry
that with the passion of the gospel is a pretty potent
combination.
I believe in the power of those two things. That’s why
Tree63 is a band. We’ve seen people respond to
rocking out for Jesus. We see people in front of us
touching His heart in the same way. There’s nothing
more rewarding than that.
John Ellis’
Favorites
Book:
Your God Is Too Safe by Mark Buchanan.
Rainy day pastime:
Sitting in front of a good movie with my beautiful
wife and our beautiful son playing at our feet.
Place to shop:
Best Buy
Fast food:
In-n-Out Burger
South African city:
Durban
U.S. city: New
York
Scripture: “When
I’m asked for autographs, I can write John, because it’s
my name, and then I put 3:30 after it. It’s something I
need to remind myself of all the time. It talks about how
He must become greater; I must become less.”